You know what today is.
25 years ago today, over 3,000 New Yorkers, many of quite a bit of money, where annihilated when the World Trade Center fell, the Pentagon was hit, and a fourth plane taken down by the passengers in Pennsylvania.
I don't think I need to tell you of the conspiracy theories which have followed in the last 25 years (most surrounding that the act was not of a plane variety but as a direct bombing run on at least the first three planes' part).
To that end, a couple questions:
- We all knew where President Bush was. If this was just a coordinated attack on the basis of felling American institutions, why didn't a plane take out that elementary school in Florida, and him? (Sans incompetence, which I'll get to in a second.)
- The standing theory is that, when the planes were effectively swapped out in a missile scenario, the planes were taken to undisclosed areas and the passengers eliminated there. If that was the case, however, don't you think someone would've tried to escape the plane or overpower the terrorists (much as what happened with Flight 93 over Pennsylvania)?
Another conspiracy theory is that both towers of the World Trade Center were taken out with controlled explosions from underneath. This would probably account for the visible collapse of both towers during that phase of it.
But wouldn't such explosions take out the better part of multiple city blocks? How do you not lose half of Manhattan in that scenario, especially in the massive plumes of smoke which made Manhattan all but uninhabitable for the better part of September 11, 2001?
Now, that does NOT mean I don't believe in one major conspiracy theory: That agents of the United States government (led by Vice President Dick Cheney), in the aim of a secretive plot called the Project for a New American Century, orchestrated the attack with the aid of the relevant Saudis, etc.
And I'll give you a number of pieces of at least suspicion to that end (several correctly asked -- and it's one of the few things he IS right about -- by Karl Denninger):
- Nothing then-prohibited was on the planes, even though one would have to wonder how else you deal with box cutters (one of the threatened weapons the terrorists used) or similar implements would have any other use thereto.
- Saudis were allowed, under the national stop, to use private planes to leave the country. Who were they and why were they allowed to leave?
- Two of the hijackers apparently rented a room from an FBI informant. A year before.
- The general incompetence of the American government at large. And I can give you two points on that: Any such attack SHOULD FIRST target the President (no matter whom he or she may be nor their political party), especially if the aim is to fell American institutions -- first financial, then military, then...
- ... there's always been the question of the fourth plane and it's destination. I think any person can figure out with clarity that fourth plane was to take out an in-session Congress. But the second point of incompetence is that the time distance between the first and fourth plane was so large that, once the terrorists took over the fourth plane, the passengers knew they were dead and were going to take the terrorists with them and force at least that portion to fail. Which see Flight 93 over Pennsylvania.
Not LIHOP. Not MIHOP. Full orchestration.
One more comment to Karl: I get that you basically make clear that, if you were President at the time, you'd have nuked Mecca.
At that point, you would then be forced to nuke Islam straight off the planet Earth -- meaning any nuclear-capable Islamic state goes with them, including making sure Saudi Arabia no longer exists.
Why? Something you don't get, either foreign or domestic.
The concept of people who have absolutely nothing left to lose.
You nuke Mecca, rightly or otherwise, and you start a holy war with a culture of people who have no problems martyring themselves for their 72 virgins (one of the reasons your premise of sending them to Hell fails -- even if they are going there, they don't believe so here!).
Something to keep in mind.